FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. They also acknowledge that SSA, or same sex attraction is a logical process for a lot of men. There is a lot of controversy about that but it does appear that you can hear on the audio, Is that creepy guy still following us?. I cant see where this is! The only reason his wife would be coming to the site to retrieve his keys is if he lost his keys and she was coming to deliver a spare set. The girls sleep in because they had been up late. Can anyone who has seen these photos post whether or not they shed some light on: Why he says they werent found 50 feet from the water. Residence at time of crime: Delphi, Indiana since 1984. Also, if I look at a map showing where the girls were dropped off, seems there is a pretty long trail from that spot onto the railroad bridge. It was dark. The male model whose photos were used has been identified and is not a person of interest in the case, investigators said. Because it doesnt matter whether I think hes guilty or not. You dont have LE sources. Delphi, Indiana from at least 1984-2021. Photo by LIBBY GERMAN / FACEBOOK And those are just a few of the suspected serials running around free. However, he was one of the searchers who found the bodies, and he was also known to have searched the area in the dark the previous evening. Of course we don't know how the bodies were found and if they were posed or staged, we only know that the crime scene was unbelievable disturbing and horrible. But Garrett said he doesn't understand how it took so long for an arrest. I cant tell you how many searches I participated in when I was in uniform for kids this age. Knives. Stabbing of one girl in the neck artery at some point after the above events. You just dont know what a person is capable of. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. He posted a photo on Facebook around three weeks to a month after the murders. Kegan Kline, 27, of Peru, Indiana, was also named as a suspect in the murders. He took an undocumented deer trail and evaded the encountering of any individual upon his departure. Because that is a deer kit around his waist. We also dont know the name of the hotel or motel that they stayed in. How would she be a few weeks pregnant by a guy that just raped her? Also stated that Abby survived the initial attack and she crawled towards Libby. If anyone else is involved they know who it is. So Mr. X did not ask him to search for his keys, he was officially asking to search for the girls according to ol Ronny boy. This family member may maintain a different surname, by generation, but they are in fact, related! As far as my theories, I made a video (see here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ) that outlines the visions held a couple of days upon learning of this crime. I would like to know if he has any motorcycle club affiliation, especially regarding a certain outfit with a reputation to be feared around that area? A previous report noted, in stunning news, that the killer had known Libby for 3-4 months before the murders via social media. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. If the killer had that weird and I would assume rare fetish with the sticks, branches and stakes, maybe the local sex workers may know exactly who it is? [43] Libby's grandmother, Becky, makes a deal with the girls. A press conference is expected Monday morning. Give it a rest, dammit! Four people are involved at least peripherally, BG and three others. Almost zero. Apparently he planned this abduction to occur at precisely this time, which is shocking. July 22, 2017 truthtellersweb. What would be Mr X reason for leaving them there? They think he did it. The conviction is expunged. Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. Libby also shared a snap of herself walking along the same railroad tracks on the day of her murder, with the Snapchat updates causing a sensation that made the case one of the United States' most notorious unsolved murders. This is at a time when he and his alibi place him out of town in a nearby city. However, I do not know how to contact you Sir. Im also sure that its used as a tactic to convince the public that they were completely justified in making whatever decisions they felt required justification. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. I have an official case document here in my hand. If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. Im sure there are instances where its been used as an effective tactic in helping to solve crimes. Chilling photo uploaded to Facebook a year after Delphi murders shows arrested man's daughter, 28, pose in SAME spot where victims took final snaps . LE has already looked into him quite a bit, and I assume hes cleared. Stop. Allen's wife confirmed to police that he owns a blue Carhartt jacket, the document said. Did the girls have wet clothes where they were found? Maybe. These guys are mostly narcissists and they dont believe in cooperation. Tony Kline is 65, 310 pounds! In an Oct. 13, 2022, interview, Allen told police he saw juvenile girls on the trails east of Freedom Bridge and said he went onto the Monon High Bridge, near where the girls were killed. Hi Robert, can you tell me if FSG and/or his brother were part of the search parties on either day? Mr Kline allegedly told investigators he would use social media accounts to talk to underage girls and had exchanged messages with and received about 100 sexual photos and about 20 sexually explicit videos from around 15 underage girls. A heavily-built man in jeans and a blue jacket could be seen approaching the girls, and in a brief snippet of audio that was released the man could be heard saying 'Down the hill' to the girls. Meanwhile, Kegan Kline, an Indiana man accused of child exploitation and child pornography, says police told him he was the last person to communicate with one of the girls. youre smart enough you should be able to figure it out by these bomb-sized hints we keep dropping. RL couldnt have done it because he was violating the terms of his probation and was caught on camera drinking in a pizza parlor. Please check out my YouTube channel, MsPsychic Sleuth. What? Yes, a lot of our very early information turned out wrong, but now that we have studied the case much more clearly, our view of the case is getting a lot more accurate as we are able to rule in or out various rumors and hypotheses. But all theories must be judged against their competitors (Occams). They were town volunteers, right? In my experience, this points to chicanery. I dont know if the bridge was within eyeshot of the spot where the girls were found. One question: I havent seen this anywhere but have the police questioned Mr. X about the murders? He uses all kinds of weird aliases. Forgive me if someone else posted this.but the FBI was called in immediately. He has not been charged in the Delphi case. The authorities have been purposeful in not disclosing much information about the Delphi Murders. His favorite color is green: like the woods, like the loot. New details of Delphi Bridge Murders reveal victims died in bloodbath There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. Cops say teen murder victims were posed, killer took souvenirs We also heard it from someone very close to a detective who was working on the case who had confided in them. The FBI can also be used to determine whether there was a danger to the community and the impact of it on the community. But ive also read (this is a rumorif not OK i will delete) that they girls were found apart. And I seriously doubt that any of those POIs have access to all of those sensitive case documents or that any of them have a personality like that. There is a rumor of a falling out between the two men at some time before the crime. The release of the search warrant comes several months after Indiana State Police announced that they were investigating a fake online profile called anthony_shots in connection to the case. While we see a giant plush bear, thats too weird, so we will defer to the search party lady and agree with her statement. Little if any good information comes out of these places. Until then, the enemies will keep attacking. Familiarity with crime location: Extreme. That is the exact location whereLibby German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, filmed an unidentified man approaching them on the day of their February 2017 deaths. But they didnt get to ask him about PB. I am hoping this will possibly fit with somone elses knowledge and it will be helpful. If Libby was treated and posed differently it could indicate she was the actual target. We dont know if or when he worked for them before or after. Why would we do that? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I wish I could delete this comment because it made no sense. So he obviously kept a copy of that for himself. As youve pointed out Mr. X did this before the search party had even assembled, right at the EXACT parcel of land that the girls bodies would be found the next day. How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? But after continuing to receive these pings and after it being 5 years, I went back and decided to post as these images have since plagued me. Delphi Murders if bodies were staged or posed what does that - reddit There are many cases of homicides or attempted homicides in the same category. Also theres only one way for LE to know that BG filmed his crime if the rumors about sending video of the crime to the girls phones afterwards is true. The voice in the clip was described as being 'not inconsistent' with that of Logan, the FBI investigation concluded. They seriously posted photos just so they could retain cool points. Mr. X was a senior in high school at the time. Why dont you do a show on our theories. Lawyered up, not talking. Its certainly possible that she may well have not recognized Mr. X, even though he was apparently a neighbor. He could have worn those boots over his jeans, and he wouldnt have gotten wet. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. According to the warrant, Logan said he was in Lafayette on the day of the murders, visiting an aquarium. Unverified but Likely. And although hes no no saint, I dont think he has it in him to commit a crime like this. Its not free though. Answers to questions about my credibility. No longer in state. If he is a poser, which is the worst of the worst, and he has a transport company, that gives him carte blanche to move around in committing more crimes of this nature in different parts of the country as he travels. They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. You said parent, so that gives me a clue. Theres no evidence that Tony Kline has ever been a suspect or has ever been interviewed by the police. The dots connecting back to Iowa with the Tyson plant etc is great investigative work. The girl could well have been his high school freshman girlfriend. We currently feel that this is the best explanation of the facts. Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest. I see you may have particular interest in the Evansdale case due to proximity. Your email address will not be published. There's verbiage that suggests 1) Source has vendettas against specific individuals and groups; 2) Repeated disclaimers (thou doth protest too much). Professor at a local university, known for the Geocaching Theory. But we know that binoculars were used in this crime because we have search warrants and binoculars are one of the things that are listed on the search warrants. Its burgundy. He died in 2020 and the case remains unsolved to this day. before that he was at dump and after that he went to fish store. You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. Delphi Man Reportedly Arrested in Connection to Murder of Teen Indiana The main suspect is brazen, openly admits to being a pedophile, goes to the victims graves and leaves flowers, and visits the victims families to offer solace for their losses. See the sort of games these guys play? Thank you Mr. Lindsay for significant information on this terrible case. Why on Earth would someone stay next to their truck all through one evening and night through the next early AM and morning into the afternoon? Let me jump in here. One seems to be PNB and the other is RRB. Indiana State Police said in February they knew who killed the girls, but that they had insufficient evidence to make an arrest. Very hard to really tell anything a lot of shadows from trees and debris on ground. I am a retired Detective Chief previously responsible for the Criminal Investigation Department and all of the 80 plus detectives within as well as a senior investigative officer with experience of leading murder enquiries. We believe him. Could be to cover their own asses. You said in your blog that Mr. X was friends with Ron Logan. My money is on an edged weapon. The bodies were found on property belonging to Ronald Logan. The dolls may have been placed there before the crime. This makes absolutely no sense at all. I saw this being explained in some YT comments to a bunch of brainlets. Photo Page - Delphi Homicides. Im so sorry. SoundCloud.com How to Submit Tips In Delphi Murders Case Watch on When interviewed by police in 2017, Allen said he was on the trail on the afternoon of the murders, according to the probable cause affidavit. The 2017 murder of Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, became notorious after investigators released chilling footage the girls recorded of a man following and approaching them across the Manon High Bridge. The rumor is that his alibi is a Delphi police officer, Nate Allen, who committed suicide in December. There was a helicopter/drone photoset going around in a FB group in the last few days (dont remember which group). There is a main suspect who has been the main suspect for a very long time. Its a very rare occurrence, only 1.3% of the victims is left in an unusual, corrected position. Hence, following Occams, our theory is the best explanation of the facts. I dont know why that stood out to me. The shot showed Allen smiling with his wife, while in the background over his shoulder - mere feet away - a police sketch of of the Delphi murder suspect could be seen posted by a notice board on the wall. Why would they NOT want to look for those types of things in a child murder with likely sa involved? If LE actually believes that BG was 50 years old, why did they put out this statement that he looks like this ridiculous sketch of a very young man or even an 18-40 year old man? This Feb. 13, 2017, file photo released by the Indiana State Police shows a man walking along the trail system in Delphi, Ind., authorities say is the suspect in the killings of two teenage girls. Theres something different about this casing, it stood out to me. I hope someday this horrendous crime will be solved. Theyre not that common. In the more than three years since the girls' tragic murders, very little evidence has been released about the case including the cause of death. He is said to have admitted talking to Libby German using a fake Instagram profile called Anthony_shots. Thats good enough for us to be probative. Sex workers talk, rumours saved a lot of workers in Vancouver during Picktons reign of terror. Police officers announced about the Delphi massacre. He states when he got home that night (13th) one of his neighbors had came over to ask if he could search his property, looking for the girls. There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. Watch on Oops, we couldn't find that track. It was posted to Facebook by Allen's wife Kathy, 50, in 2018 - just over a year after the girls disappeared in February 2017, although it's unclear when the photo was taken. He is described as a white male aged between 16 and 40 years old, between 5 6 and 5 10 in height and weighing between 180 and 200 pounds. And two girls were abducted there also. He said he had lost his keys and was going to call his wife to bring a spare set of keys to him. I dont know if he actually used the binoculars to spot them. Dime a dozen. Although the exact murder weapon is redacted in the warrant, Body Bags host and forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan told Grace that the killer likely used an edged weapon, given the amount of blood found at the crime scene. There are cases like this all over the country. The suspected pedophile - who is heavy-set and pasty-faced - used an image of a ripped and muscular young man to trick underage girls into speaking to him. 7) Hes local. If they tried to take it to court, I am almost certain that the judge would throw it out before it even got to the trial stage. BG was dressed in clothes similar to what Ron wore, and he took the girls to Rons land and killed them there. And he has an accomplice, a much younger man. After the girls body was found, at the time of her murder, the local police chased other suspects in connection with the case, but nothing stuck. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. Education history: Primary and junior high unknown. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. Investigators have explained that the details of the crime scene indicate a signature, which can help them identify the killer. People were getting very into it, but I really saw nothing. Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. Everyone was crowding around to look at the crime he had committed. Corn fields? They have most recently stated that they want to avoid double jeopardy. If he didnt have his keys, he could not move his truck. Required fields are marked *. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a9ecdae37f37f9e5f76df75466de7fce" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Not sure of the significance here. He has connections with current LE officers. See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified. Text messages have been circulating online regarding the case, as has speculation about some of the evidence that is being kept under wraps. Lets hope they find some peace. Daniel Nations, a registered Indiana sex-offender, was arrested in Colorado in September 2017 after threatening hikers with a hatchet. However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. Id prefer stuff thats in the papers. FSG didnt recognize him either, and Im sure that FSG and Mr. X knew each other. He met few if any of those girls he was talking to. Ive been angry at LE today regarding this case. "I've always been concerned about how these two youngsters died. FBI says their bodies 'moved and staged' in Delphi murders - WBIW Also, there is debate, but if you look at the scanner recording of the day when the bodies were found, the local PD says "keep them away" in response to a statement re: bystanders + FBI; resulting in debate about whether local pd was trying to keep FBI away and why. We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints. Is Mr X part of any of the local groups working on promoting the trail system? Incidentally, this LE detective thinks our police sources are all real sources and thinks we are on the right trail. Feel free to post about any unsolved case you think is interesting, high profile preferred. Photo shows man arrested over Delphi murders with police sketch of The gun jammed, which Garrett said is common. Lets call this the intuitive hunch of an MI veteran. A user allegedly shared them on a FB group a few days ago. Thing is, we cant figure out if it is a crumpled piece of paper, dried leaves, a stuffed toy, or a doll. Video from one of the victim's phones shows a man on the trail wearing dark jacket and jeans. We believe that those reactions were overblown. Robert Lindsay is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. Im seeing in between. Hes a mechanic by trade, but used to drive trucks and works for a local trucking company with a high profile. I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. BG himself is both the catfish young man and the older man who is the actual killer, so he is both sketches at once, obviously. The judge would say you dont even have enough evidence against this man to take this case to court and throw it out of court. However, there was one little problem. They say they want to prevent false confessions. We obtained this document via a public records request. So Id just as soon stop looking at him as a suspect. We dont know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally dont park a quarter mile away and hike in.
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