The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Former Mongols President David Santillan continued to testify. Mr. Dulaney said that Mr. Santillan instituted new policies, like no more club-driven drug business, and made it mandatory that members had to have a motorcycle and things like a valid drivers license and registration and a job.. On the stand, Mr. Santillan called the claims about his daily meetings with Mr. Ciccone an absolute lie. (He acknowledged encountering Mr. Ciccone by chance at a Starbucks near the courthouse once during the trial.). If MCs want to be seen as a club then stop all the violence, the general public can see through all the BS, as can those who are a part of this scene and want nothing to do with clubs. Discussion in 'Mayberry Lounge' started by Pliny Pete, Jul 18, 2021. I take the hit on this one because I shouldve waited for his side- But I always take a the word of a club member and this time it was a mistake. But then he began to talk about now-retired ATF agent John Ciccone, the lead agent on the racketeering case. Both Mr. Santillan, a Mongols member for almost 25 years who was voted out of the club in July, and the agent, John Ciccone, who retired in December after 32 years at the A.T.F., deny that Mr. Santillan was acting as an informant during the trial, though Mr. Ciccones sworn declaration does not address whether Mr. Santillan had acted as a confidential informant in the past. But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. John looked out not just for me but the club, Mr. Santillan said. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. Santillan says he and Ciccone had a "rapport" after 25 years of dealing with one another. I think it would be time to really clean house over there, anyone that lil Dave came in contact with on a regular basis would have to go? 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David Santillan says he was thrown out of the Mongols after a "closed door" meeting where he did not get a chance to refute the allegations against him. He cant protect me, he told me, so we have to have an exit strategy, he told me, an apparently agitated Mr. Santillan said to her. The video was recorded in June of last year, when, Ms. Santillan said, she felt scorned because her husband had been unfaithful and after she had obtained a restraining order against him for what she claimed was physical abuse. It became clear that Dave had betrayed the club, his oath and everything we hold sacred, the club said in a statement. And he was tireless, Mr. DAlesio said. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. After this mistake I realized I went against everything i believed in regarding both sides of the story and said enough of this drama bullshit . This is the final statement on this because honestly its mundane and boring. These registrations are something that need to be examined by the circuit, maybe the Supreme Court.. "I love you, I love you," David Santillan says in the call. No one at all can keep blaming LEO (Which I do all the time) when there is gang shit happening all the time. Representatives from several local law enforcement departments also said they had no such records. In my opinion, the only reason the government brought this RICO case was to take another run at the patch, having failed each time in the past, said George L. Steele, a lawyer for the Mongols who is handling a separate appeal in the case. MONGOLS MC National President lil Dave the coward mongo mongol 328 subscribers Subscribe 706 231K views 4 years ago UPDATE: The only reason that Lil' Dave is still the President of. The saying 99% and 1% is very true at this moment in time- Most bikers who are the 99% and majority can care less about motorcycle clubs anymore- Its fading and fading fast. If you've been paying attention the last couple of years, the Mongols have been on a sort of federal probation and that's the club as a whole. Ms. Santillan said that she now felt horrible about disclosing the communications and that her husband was not, in fact, an informant. Chunks of flesh and trails of blood were flying everywhere as he took full swings at attacker after attacker. David Santillan was the president of the Mongols motorcycle club for nearly 13 years, until he was voted out of the club in July of 2021. Both Mr. Ciccone and the U.S. Attorneys Office declined to comment on the motion beyond the government response filed in court, which said the petition for a new trial was replete with false and unsupported allegations and speculation.. He alleges that Santillan sabotaged the trial by not allowing him to call Ciccone to the stand. I've heard out of his mouth personally a couple of years ago that they were trying to avoid any issues with any clubs and trying to stay quiet as not to bring attention to themselves because of the . Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader LIL DAVE Was an Informant (VIDEO) June 6, 2022 Biker News & Biker Lifestyle National Geographic Outlaw Bikers With Mariana Van Zeller/Hack Job December 6, 2021 mongols motorcycle club Interview with Former International President LIL Dave from the Mongols MC November 11, 2021 Biker News & Biker Lifestyle As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. 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Carter that retired ATF agent Ciccone will testify that Santillan was never an informant. In one of them, according to their court papers, Mr. Santillan crashed his Mercedes in 2017 while driving impaired, damaging numerous cars parked on the street. Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader Was an Informant, House Democrats unhappy with White House handling of D.C.s new criminal code, Number of imprisoned veterans concerns former defense chiefs, Biden team readies new advisory panel ahead of expected reelection bid, Attorney General Merrick Garland makes unannounced trip to Ukraine, Biden and Germanys Scholz huddle on Ukraine war at White House, Crossover voting in primaries in Wyoming is about to become more difficult, Biden awards Medal of Honor to Paris Davis for heroism in Vietnam: An incredible man, Trump attorney who advised GOP on fake electors plan reappointed to state judicial panel, Whats the solution to Wests water crisis? A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. There's a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. ", LA County sheriff's recruits graduate months after Whittier crash, Highways into the San Bernardino Mountains are closed to drivers, LA County passes motion requiring retrofit of some buildings by 2033. Thats what I meant by protect in the video.. Now its at a point where guns, instead of fist are used to settle things. The current national leaders of the Mongols said they were convinced that the clubs former president, who controlled the Mongols defense team, had acted improperly. In another instance, in 2014, Mr. Santillan and his wife got into a brawl with other people at a racetrack, the Mongols filing says. In 2018, the club was convicted of. Hes apart of a club that started with Cops and COS. if we Americanize the cartels that would make YouTube more entertaining, hurt Gore websites and save hundreds of thousands of lives. "It was an improper line of communication, particularly for a law enforcement personnel trying to convict an entity of being a criminal organization," Yanny said. ", RELATED: Racketeering verdict in OC might force Mongols biker club to lose logo. agent over the years because it helped avert trouble. David Santillan tells Eyewitness News that he was in a "really bad place" when the video was recorded and that he's never been disloyal to the Mongols. She later recanted the assertion. Judge Carter also pressed Annie Santillan on why she specifically called her husband a confidential informant and "a rat" if she was just trying to hurt him. Mr. Santillan provided records from the cases to show he had been convicted of offenses including driving under the influence, leaving the scene of an accident and disturbing the peace, and that he had been arrested, fined and put on probation. He is a rat, Mr. Santillans wife, Annie, suggested in a text message that became a key piece of evidence in the case against the group, which was founded in Southern California in 1969 and whose members are mostly Hispanic. The unusual legal imbroglio provides a rare glimpse into the hidden and volatile politics of the outlaw motorcycle club and the degree to which law enforcement and its targets may engage in limited cooperation when it is seen as mutually beneficial. "I was literally trying to destroy him," she answered, adding that she didn't understand what he was talking about in relation to Ciccone. At the core of the case was a video of a conversation between Mr. Santillan and his wife that she had passed on to members of the biker club last year, accompanied by a text message in which she told them that her husband had been a confidential government informant. Judge Carter conducted an extensive inquiry to unearth any evidence that Mr. Santillan had cooperated with law enforcement and acknowledged his difficulty in explaining away the contents of the video. Ciccone said whenever he worked a Mongols event and there was the potential for problems or violence, he would go to Santillan because he's the president of the Mongols and can convey the message to his members. He said their communication was for public safety and showed the Mongols that there is ATF presence at their events. Get your Signed Copy of Brotherhood & Betrayal( shipping is included to the Lower 48 States only)- Shipping to Canada, Australia and Overseas please contact Chinadoll annredden2003@gmail.com Order Yours Now~! Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York. Lil Dave, the president of the Mongols motorcycle club, was caught cheating on his wife s o she decided to revenge his ass by putting this video on Youtube which shows him supposedly. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF.The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video surfaced of Santillan talking to his wife about the lead ATF agent on the case John Ciccone.Eyewitness News has obtained the video that was recorded in June of 2021 when David Santillan was drunk and despondent. The Mongols are relying on an explosive video shared by Mr. Santillans wife, Annie Santillan, who, during a stretch when she was angry with her husband over his infidelity, had her daughter record a conversation in which he appeared to refer to protection he had received from the A.T.F. LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- There's a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. Everyone has their opinion of went down and how everything was covered. ", RELATED: Mongols Motorcycle Club vows to fight trademark loss. Such an order would allow anyone to use the image. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president was a confidential informant for the ATF. The A.T.F. Former National Vice President of the T H U G Riders MC MOE CAPO MORALES. The president of the notorious Mongols motorcycle club promised he'd put his infidelities behind him, get sober and be a better father to their children. Both Mr. Santillan, a Mongols member for almost 25 years who was voted out of the club in July, and the agent, John Ciccone, who retired in December after 32 years at the A.T.F., deny that Mr. Santillan was acting as an informant during the trial, though Mr. Ciccones sworn declaration does not address whether Mr. Santillan had acted as a confidential informant in the past. Sherdog.com is a property of Mandatory Media, LLC, monitoring_string = "5200e30beed193e5fe31f8bccc2bdcbf". Join u. AboutPressCopyrightContact. They are sick and tired of the gangster shit, they want to be bikers and be apart of a scene that was once true to itself (Thus the reason for pop up clubs and lack of respect for protocol and tradition). He and his wife, Annie, were estranged after he had an affair. The text reads in part: "You guys need to see this video" and that David "has been working with the government is all [sic] entire time" and that's "why he felt so comfortable to do what he does he is simply a CI In other words he is a rat.". As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. He's accused of being a confidential informant and working with the government during the Mongols' trial after his wife,. A supervisory special agent with the A.T.F. New features, smoother menu and backgrounds- PLUS!! Copyright 2023 KABC Television, LLC. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. Great conversation with the president of the Mongols. Theres a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. "This was a lifestyle, a culture, and a way of life. agent on the case, John Ciccone, sharing inside information about the club in exchange for lighter penalties for various offenses. One thing is for certain, you dont ever let people know your club affiliation over the internet. 02:34 LIL Dave is all over the main stream, 04:10 Why did lil dave not want ciccone on the stand, 06:45 Our invitation for Ciccone to come on the show, 15:14 Mongol Lawyer thinks LIL DAVE WAS COMPROMISED AFRAID AND TURNED ON HIS CLUB. Mongols Motorcycle Club says LIL Dave was an informant as they head back to court June 5, 2022 A new episode of Motorcycle Madhouse with Hollywood & Chinadoll Mon-Fri. Get with the Insanity on all major Podcast Platforms The lawyer in charge of the retrial motion, Joseph A. Yanny, said the Mongols hoped to prove that an improper relationship between Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone during the 2018 trial allowed the government to hear things it should not have about the Mongols defense strategy and even adversely influenced the Mongols presentation of their case. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. Both men also rejected the claim that Mr. Santillan had revealed privileged defense information to the government while his motorcycle club was on trial. Mr. Santillan said he talked with the A.T.F. He was the guy outside all the time providing cover support in case something went wrong with the undercovers.. He cant protect me, he told me, so we have to have an exit strategy, he told me, an apparently agitated Mr. Santillan said to her. He tells his side of the story in the ongoing drama to clear his name. David Santillan, the president of the Mongols, was ousted by the group after a video surfaced that implied he was being protected by a federal agent. I've heard rumours he's also not actually mongolian. AS far as the other dude with the other channel is concerned. "John told me that I have one year, one year," Santillan says in the call. The U.S. Attorneys Office had earlier tried and failed to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo, a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword, a landmark case that prosecutors felt would help weaken the club by undermining its visual identity. In one of them, according to their court papers, Mr. Santillan crashed his Mercedes in 2017 while driving impaired, damaging numerous cars parked on the street. The indictment did not target any individuals but alleged that the club itself had engaged in an organized conspiracy of crimes such as murder, attempted murder and drug dealing. Annie Santillan says she surreptitiously recorded the call because David's mistress had been harassing her. You can now listen to full episodes of the podcast right from the app. Anyone can read what you share. Testimony will reconvene on Friday, July 22, at 7:30 a.m. LA County sheriff's recruits graduate months after Whittier crash, Highways into the San Bernardino Mountains are closed to drivers, LA County passes motion requiring retrofit of some buildings by 2033. The ultimate implications for society are paramount here, he said. Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University, said that if a federal agent was seeking confidential information about a criminal defense, that would be an extraordinary transgression.. He said they discussed matters such as public safety when the Mongols or other clubs were planning parties or motorcycle rallies to ensure that members stayed in line and that rival groups kept their distance. As for Mr. Ciccone, he had mastered the craft of executing complex investigations using everything from undercovers to informants to wiretaps to subpoenas and surveillance, said Frank DAlesio, a retired A.T.F. Ruben Cavazos (born December 28, 1956) is an American criminal, and former International President of the Mongols Motorcycle Club.His autobiography, Honor Few, Fear None: The Life & Times of a Mongol, was published by HarperCollins in 2008. and other law enforcement agencies have long gone after biker organizations by co-opting members as informants and infiltrating the groups with their own undercover agents. Club attorneys are seeking a new trial, alleging that former Mongols President David Santillan was secretly a government "rat" who served as a confidential informant for a then-agent with the . The. Three years after the 2018 case, the Mongols lawyers came forward last year with claims that the groups former president, David Santillan, had been surreptitiously cooperating with a special agent from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives for years and had sabotaged the defense. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF. The lawyer in charge of the retrial motion, Joseph A. Yanny, said the Mongols hoped to prove that an improper relationship between Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone during the 2018 trial allowed the government to hear things it should not have about the Mongols defense strategy and even adversely influenced the Mongols presentation of their case. Prez Lil Dave Ep 936 Hells Angels A violent price to pay **FULL AUDIO** and other law enforcement agencies have long gone after biker organizations by co-opting members as informants and infiltrating the groups with their own undercover agents. agent, but they failed to persuade a judge to grant a new trial on the racketeering and conspiracy convictions against the club. Mongols Motorcycle Gang Member Sentenced to Life in Prison for Murdering President of San Francisco Hells Angels U.S. Attorney's Office May 15, 2012: Northern District of California (415) 436-7200; SAN FRANCISCOChristopher Bryan Ablett, a/k/a "Stoney," a member of the Modesto Chapter of the Mongols outlaw motorcycle gang, was sentenced . Now its onto covering what the biker lifestyle is all about- Fun and riding motorcycles. Never in my life have I ever implicated anybody in the club for some kind of nefarious activity. 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The government, in its own appeal, is making another run at the Mongols logo, renewing an earlier request for a narrower forfeiture order that would take away the clubs right to trademark exclusivity over the emblem. She also said in a text message to other Mongols, now filed with the court, that her husband had acted for a time as a confidential government informant. During the call, Santillan is heard talking about John Cicconne, the lead ATF agent on the case. agent. All rights reserved. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business. David told me that they had been meeting every day at Starbucks before trial until Judge Carter told them not to because a juror saw them together, Mr. Stubbs testified in August. "The relationship was just cordial, respectful relationship just to keep the peace between us and the club," Santillan said. Cavazos was raised by his father in Highland Park, Los Angeles, California and joined the Avenues, a Mexican American street gang, at an early age before . A jury ordered the forfeiture, but Judge Carter reversed the order, concluding that it infringed on the groups constitutional rights. Mongols MC President Lil Dave THE REAL AMERICAN CHOLO. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. Subscribe to our Insane Throttle YouTube channel for a wide range of biker shows and news Two years after a federal jury found the notorious Mongols Motorcycle Club a criminal organization, lawyers for the club are asking a judge for a new trial accusing its former president of being a secret government informant and [] In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. He's accused of being a confidential informant and working with the government during the Mongols' trial after his wife, Annie, shared a June 2021 recorded phone conversation with other members of the biker gang calling him a rat. In the video, Ms. Santillan was talking to her husband on speakerphone when he told her that Mr. Ciccone was retiring. The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video surfaced of Santillan talking to his wife about the lead ATF agent on the case -- John Ciccone. The original case attracted widespread attention because of the federal governments unusual attempt to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword and thus relinquish a big source of the organizations mystique. Mongols MC is a one percenter motorcycle club founded in Montebello, California on December 5, 1969. Self-Improvement. **** IMPORTANT**** Check out the totally redesigned app!! There could be a particular concern that the defense lawyer was unwittingly receiving directions from someone aligned with the government, he said. In court testimony and in an earlier interview, Ms. Santillan said she had shared the video and the text with the Mongols in an attempt to destroy her husband but had since regretted it; she said she was not being truthful when she claimed he had been an informant. On Wednesday, defense attorney Joe Yanny and Santillan went back and forth over Santillan's relationship with retired Montebello police officer Christopher Cervantes and Ciccone.
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